HILL'S WEAK SPOT - SHE'S SENATOR STUBBORN

By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

February 17, 2007 -- Sorry seems to be the hardest word for Hillary Clinton.

The New York senator is not used to being challenged on either her policy
positions or her votes - especially when it comes to Iraq. For the last six
years, she's operated in a protective bubble - insulated from the press and
the voters.

Those days are over.

Since she entered the presidential race two weeks ago, she's learned quickly
that voters in Iowa and New Hampshire - and most likely in the rest of the
country - want truthful answers and won't accept scripted spin.

During the last week, wherever Hillary Clinton campaigned, she faced one
dogged question that wouldn't go away: "Are y ou sorry for your 2002 vote in
favor of invading Iraq?"

But try as they might, neither reporters nor voters can pry the "S" word out
of Hillary. She refuses to apologize for voting to authorize the use of our
military.

Instead, she repeats that she "takes responsibility" for her vote and that
had she "known then what I know now," she would have voted against the
resolution. She reiterates that she doesn't believe in "do-overs" and even
tries to persuade her listeners that she never meant to vote for
"pre-emptive war" and that she was actually voting to strengthen the weapons
inspectors.

Iraq is not her mistake; it's President's Bush's mistake. End of story.

But the questions persist. So, why has she chosen to take on an unnecessary
fight about whether to apologize for a vote she cast five ye ars ago? Her
fellow candidate John Edwards and 2004's Democratic nominee, Sen. John
Kerry, both have used the "S" word and apologized for their votes. Likely
her advisers have warned that the perception that she flip-flops on the
issues is a key negative and have urged her not to change her position. She
doesn't want to look like Kerry in 2004.

But her refusal to apologize is typical of two other characteristics that so
frequently land her in trouble: her stubbornness and belief that she is
always right.

We've seen this before.

Urged to compromise on health-care reform in 1994, she refused. Counseled by
most of her staff to release the Whitewater documents when The Washington
Post first requested them, she said no and triggered the designation of a
special prosecutor. When Whitewater co-conspirator Jim MacDougal suggested
that he buy her out of the investment to avoid political embarrassment, she
refused, saying that she planned to use the proceeds for Chelsea's college
tuition. When Bill Clinton had the opportunity to settle the Paula Jones
lawsuit, Hillary vetoed that possibility, paving the way for her husband's
impeachment.

When Hillary takes these positions, she believes that she is right - and no
one can convince her otherwise.

When Hillary is right, this stubbornness is commendable. But when she is
wrong, it is frustrating to her supporters and infuriating to her advisers.

But there's another reason for her stubbornness. Hillary, for all of her
vaunted independence, depends on gurus to guide her every move. She falls
under their spell and, while thus mesmerized, she believes they can do no
ill or make no mistake.

Hillary wouldn't compromise on health care because her guru-du-jour Ira
Magaziner told he r not to do so. She wouldn't release the Whitewater
records because her former mentor, White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum,
advised against it. She wouldn't back off her support for the war partially
because the generals to whom she had come to listen and admire while serving
on the Armed Services Committee warned that it would lead to a disaster.
Combine that with the flawed guidance of her pollsters and you see why
Hillary is stuck.

Sometimes the gurus are right (as on Iraq). Sometimes they're wrong. But
Hillary can't tell the difference.

That's a key reason why she shouldn't be president.







Amen.



DD

Dirk,
Come on !! Dick Morris?? Like he doesn't have an axe to grind? What you
refuse to realize is that Rudy, Mitt and "Crazy Train" John McCain all face
similiar problems. They make Kerry's flip-flopping seem like child's play.





"Dirk Diggler" <dirk@dirk.org> wrote in message
news:12tjksd6qs14q38@corp.supernews.com...
> HILL'S WEAK SPOT - SHE'S SENATOR STUBBORN
>
> By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN
>
> February 17, 2007 -- Sorry seems to be the hardest word for Hillary
> Clinton.
>
> The New York senator is not used to being challenged on either her policy
> positions or her votes - especially when it comes to Iraq. For the last
> six years, she's operated in a protective bubble - insulated from the
> press and the voters.
>
> Those days are over.
>
> Since she entered the presidential race two weeks ago, she's learned
> quickly that voters in Iowa and New Hampshire - and most likely in the
> rest of the country - want truthful answers and won't accept scripted
> spin.
>
> During the last week, wherever Hillary Clinton campaigned, she faced one
> dogged question that wouldn't go away: "Are y ou sorry for your 2002 vote
> in favor of invading Iraq?"
>
> But try as they might, neither reporters nor voters can pry the "S" word
> out of Hillary. She refuses to apologize for voting to authorize the use
> of our military.
>
> Instead, she repeats that she "takes responsibility" for her vote and that
> had she "known then what I know now," she would have voted against the
> resolution. She reiterates that she doesn't believe in "do-overs" and even
> tries to persuade her listeners that she never meant to vote for
> "pre-emptive war" and that she was actually voting to strengthen the
> weapons inspectors.
>
> Iraq is not her mistake; it's President's Bush's mistake. End of story.
>
> But the questions persist. So, why has she chosen to take on an
> unnecessary fight about whether to apologize for a vote she cast five ye
> ars ago? Her fellow candidate John Edwards and 2004's Democratic nominee,
> Sen. John Kerry, both have used the "S" word and apologized for their
> votes. Likely her advisers have warned that the perception that she
> flip-flops on the issues is a key negative and have urged her not to
> change her position. She doesn't want to look like Kerry in 2004.
>
> But her refusal to apologize is typical of two other characteristics that
> so frequently land her in trouble: her stubbornness and belief that she is
> always right.
>
> We've seen this before.
>
> Urged to compromise on health-care reform in 1994, she refused. Counseled
> by most of her staff to release the Whitewater documents when The
> Washington Post first requested them, she said no and triggered the
> designation of a special prosecutor. When Whitewater co-conspirator Jim
> MacDougal suggested that he buy her out of the investment to avoid
> political embarrassment, she refused, saying that she planned to use the
> proceeds for Chelsea's college tuition. When Bill Clinton had the
> opportunity to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit, Hillary vetoed that
> possibility, paving the way for her husband's impeachment.
>
> When Hillary takes these positions, she believes that she is right - and
> no one can convince her otherwise.
>
> When Hillary is right, this stubbornness is commendable. But when she is
> wrong, it is frustrating to her supporters and infuriating to her
> advisers.
>
> But there's another reason for her stubbornness. Hillary, for all of her
> vaunted independence, depends on gurus to guide her every move. She falls
> under their spell and, while thus mesmerized, she believes they can do no
> ill or make no mistake.
>
> Hillary wouldn't compromise on health care because her guru-du-jour Ira
> Magaziner told he r not to do so. She wouldn't release the Whitewater
> records because her former mentor, White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum,
> advised against it. She wouldn't back off her support for the war
> partially because the generals to whom she had come to listen and admire
> while serving on the Armed Services Committee warned that it would lead to
> a disaster. Combine that with the flawed guidance of her pollsters and you
> see why Hillary is stuck.
>
> Sometimes the gurus are right (as on Iraq). Sometimes they're wrong. But
> Hillary can't tell the difference.
>
> That's a key reason why she shouldn't be president.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Amen.
>
>
>
> DD
>
>

"Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle" <The.Bar.Is.a.Beautiful.Place@gmail.com>
wrote in message news:53uct4F1u408uU1@mid.individual.net...
> Dirk,
> Come on !! Dick Morris?? Like he doesn't have an axe to grind? What you
> refuse to realize is that Rudy, Mitt and "Crazy Train" John McCain all
> face similiar problems. They make Kerry's flip-flopping seem like child's
> play.
>
>


When did Rudy and/or Mitt vote on the Iraq War?

DD

Jethro Tull really did write that song about you. I am talking about a wide
range of issues, not just Iraq.




"Dirk Diggler" <dirk@dirk.org> wrote in message
news:12tk0j6frf94l8d@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle" <The.Bar.Is.a.Beautiful.Place@gmail.com>
> wrote in message news:53uct4F1u408uU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Dirk,
>> Come on !! Dick Morris?? Like he doesn't have an axe to grind? What
>> you refuse to realize is that Rudy, Mitt and "Crazy Train" John McCain
>> all face similiar problems. They make Kerry's flip-flopping seem like
>> child's play.
>>
>>
>
>
> When did Rudy and/or Mitt vote on the Iraq War?
>
> DD
>

"Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle" <The.Bar.Is.a.Beautiful.Place@gmail.com>
wrote in message news:53ue5dF1ui8ecU1@mid.individual.net...
> Jethro Tull really did write that song about you. I am talking about a
> wide range of issues, not just Iraq.
>
>


Aqualung?

DD

On Feb 20, 12:37 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
> "Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle" <The.Bar.Is.a.Beautiful.Pl...@gmail.com>
> wrote in messagenews:53ue5dF1ui8ecU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> > Jethro Tull really did write that song about you. I am talking about a
> > wide range of issues, not just Iraq.
>
> Aqualung?
>
> DD

Got something you want to tell us about ogling little girls in the
park, do you?

LOL !!!!



"Shaun" <shaunhaines1978@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171993564.047348.131710@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 20, 12:37 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
>> "Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle"
>> <The.Bar.Is.a.Beautiful.Pl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote in messagenews:53ue5dF1ui8ecU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> > Jethro Tull really did write that song about you. I am talking about a
>> > wide range of issues, not just Iraq.
>>
>> Aqualung?
>>
>> DD
>
> Got something you want to tell us about ogling little girls in the
> park, do you?
>

Didn't they do a song called "Thick As A Brick"? Or was that the name of an
album?




"Dirk Diggler" <dirk@dirk.org> wrote in message
news:12tmcetc8h9kve3@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle" <The.Bar.Is.a.Beautiful.Place@gmail.com>
> wrote in message news:53ue5dF1ui8ecU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Jethro Tull really did write that song about you. I am talking about a
>> wide range of issues, not just Iraq.
>>
>>
>
>
> Aqualung?
>
> DD
>

"Shaun" <shaunhaines1978@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171993564.047348.131710@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 20, 12:37 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
>> "Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle"
>> <The.Bar.Is.a.Beautiful.Pl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote in messagenews:53ue5dF1ui8ecU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> > Jethro Tull really did write that song about you. I am talking about a
>> > wide range of issues, not just Iraq.
>>
>> Aqualung?
>>
>> DD
>
> Got something you want to tell us about ogling little girls in the
> park, do you?
>

I flashed a couple ladies sitting on a park bench once. One looked up, and
had a stroke. The next one looked up, and had a stroke. The last one
looked up, but she had short arms...

Nice to see you're back Shaun. I was beginning to miss you... You dumb
liberal you...

DD

On Feb 20, 4:28 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
> "Shaun" <shaunhaines1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1171993564.047348.131710@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > On Feb 20, 12:37 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
> >> "Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle"
> >> <The.Bar.Is.a.Beautiful.Pl...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote in messagenews:53ue5dF1ui8ecU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> >> > Jethro Tull really did write that song about you. I am talking about a
> >> > wide range of issues, not just Iraq.
>
> >> Aqualung?
>
> >> DD
>
> > Got something you want to tell us about ogling little girls in the
> > park, do you?
>
> I flashed a couple ladies sitting on a park bench once. One looked up, and
> had a stroke. The next one looked up, and had a stroke. The last one
> looked up, but she had short arms...
>
> Nice to see you're back Shaun. I was beginning to miss you... You dumb
> liberal you...
>
> DD

Right back at you, you right-wing imbecile. Out of all the hardcore
conservatives, you're the one I want to see burned at the stake least,
buddy.

SH

"Shaun" <shaunhaines1978@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172024681.969794.37600@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 20, 4:28 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
>> "Shaun" <shaunhaines1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1171993564.047348.131710@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> > On Feb 20, 12:37 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
>> >> "Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle"
>> >> <The.Bar.Is.a.Beautiful.Pl...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote in messagenews:53ue5dF1ui8ecU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> >> > Jethro Tull really did write that song about you. I am talking
>> >> > about a
>> >> > wide range of issues, not just Iraq.
>>
>> >> Aqualung?
>>
>> >> DD
>>
>> > Got something you want to tell us about ogling little girls in the
>> > park, do you?
>>
>> I flashed a couple ladies sitting on a park bench once. One looked up,
>> and
>> had a stroke. The next one looked up, and had a stroke. The last one
>> looked up, but she had short arms...
>>
>> Nice to see you're back Shaun. I was beginning to miss you... You dumb
>> liberal you...
>>
>> DD
>
> Right back at you, you right-wing imbecile. Out of all the hardcore
> conservatives, you're the one I want to see burned at the stake least,
> buddy.
>
> SH
>

Thanks man. Now go suck some baby brains out of some wombs and give needles
to drug addicts!

DD

On Feb 21, 11:07 am, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
> "Shaun" <shaunhaines1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172024681.969794.37600@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 4:28 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
> >> "Shaun" <shaunhaines1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1171993564.047348.131710@q2g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>
> >> > On Feb 20, 12:37 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
> >> >> "Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle"
> >> >> <The.Bar.Is.a.Beautiful.Pl...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote in messagenews:53ue5dF1ui8ecU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> >> >> > Jethro Tull really did write that song about you. I am talking
> >> >> > about a
> >> >> > wide range of issues, not just Iraq.
>
> >> >> Aqualung?
>
> >> >> DD
>
> >> > Got something you want to tell us about ogling little girls in the
> >> > park, do you?
>
> >> I flashed a couple ladies sitting on a park bench once. One looked up,
> >> and
> >> had a stroke. The next one looked up, and had a stroke. The last one
> >> looked up, but she had short arms...
>
> >> Nice to see you're back Shaun. I was beginning to miss you... You dumb
> >> liberal you...
>
> >> DD
>
> > Right back at you, you right-wing imbecile. Out of all the hardcore
> > conservatives, you're the one I want to see burned at the stake least,
> > buddy.
>
> > SH
>
> Thanks man. Now go suck some baby brains out of some wombs and give needles
> to drug addicts!
>
> DD- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Will do, just as long as you promise to continue to cut literacy
programs to give more money to millionaires, draw attention away from
real issues by bashing gays, and ensure that worldwide "democracy" and
"freedom" flourish only when it suits the needs of the international
economic elite!

And, while we're doing it, we can both bow to our shrines of those fat-
assed windbags Michael Moore and Rush Limbaugh.

;-)

SH

"Shaun" <shaunhaines1978@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172081201.416581.210850@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
> On Feb 21, 11:07 am, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
>> "Shaun" <shaunhaines1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172024681.969794.37600@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 20, 4:28 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
>> >> "Shaun" <shaunhaines1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1171993564.047348.131710@q2g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Feb 20, 12:37 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
>> >> >> "Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle"
>> >> >> <The.Bar.Is.a.Beautiful.Pl...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote in messagenews:53ue5dF1ui8ecU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> >> >> > Jethro Tull really did write that song about you. I am talking
>> >> >> > about a
>> >> >> > wide range of issues, not just Iraq.
>>
>> >> >> Aqualung?
>>
>> >> >> DD
>>
>> >> > Got something you want to tell us about ogling little girls in the
>> >> > park, do you?
>>
>> >> I flashed a couple ladies sitting on a park bench once. One looked
>> >> up,
>> >> and
>> >> had a stroke. The next one looked up, and had a stroke. The last one
>> >> looked up, but she had short arms...
>>
>> >> Nice to see you're back Shaun. I was beginning to miss you... You
>> >> dumb
>> >> liberal you...
>>
>> >> DD
>>
>> > Right back at you, you right-wing imbecile. Out of all the hardcore
>> > conservatives, you're the one I want to see burned at the stake least,
>> > buddy.
>>
>> > SH
>>
>> Thanks man. Now go suck some baby brains out of some wombs and give
>> needles
>> to drug addicts!
>>
>> DD- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Will do, just as long as you promise to continue to cut literacy
> programs to give more money to millionaires, draw attention away from
> real issues by bashing gays, and ensure that worldwide "democracy" and
> "freedom" flourish only when it suits the needs of the international
> economic elite!
>

Everyone got a tax cut.

I love the gays.

We have yet to take a mm of oil from Iraq.

> And, while we're doing it, we can both bow to our shrines of those fat-
> assed windbags Michael Moore and Rush Limbaugh.
>
> ;-)
>

Michael Moore has at least 75 lbs. on Rush...


DD

On Feb 21, 3:05 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
> "Shaun" <shaunhaines1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172081201.416581.210850@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 11:07 am, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
> >> "Shaun" <shaunhaines1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1172024681.969794.37600@a75g2000cwd.googleg roups.com...
>
> >> > On Feb 20, 4:28 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
> >> >> "Shaun" <shaunhaines1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:1171993564.047348.131710@q2g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>
> >> >> > On Feb 20, 12:37 pm, "Dirk Diggler" <d...@dirk.org> wrote:
> >> >> >> "Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle"
> >> >> >> <The.Bar.Is.a.Beautiful.Pl...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote in messagenews:53ue5dF1ui8ecU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> >> >> >> > Jethro Tull really did write that song about you. I am talking
> >> >> >> > about a
> >> >> >> > wide range of issues, not just Iraq.
>
> >> >> >> Aqualung?
>
> >> >> >> DD
>
> >> >> > Got something you want to tell us about ogling little girls in the
> >> >> > park, do you?
>
> >> >> I flashed a couple ladies sitting on a park bench once. One looked
> >> >> up,
> >> >> and
> >> >> had a stroke. The next one looked up, and had a stroke. The last one
> >> >> looked up, but she had short arms...
>
> >> >> Nice to see you're back Shaun. I was beginning to miss you... You
> >> >> dumb
> >> >> liberal you...
>
> >> >> DD
>
> >> > Right back at you, you right-wing imbecile. Out of all the hardcore
> >> > conservatives, you're the one I want to see burned at the stake least,
> >> > buddy.
>
> >> > SH
>
> >> Thanks man. Now go suck some baby brains out of some wombs and give
> >> needles
> >> to drug addicts!
>
> >> DD- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Will do, just as long as you promise to continue to cut literacy
> > programs to give more money to millionaires, draw attention away from
> > real issues by bashing gays, and ensure that worldwide "democracy" and
> > "freedom" flourish only when it suits the needs of the international
> > economic elite!
>
> Everyone got a tax cut.

The rich got a bigger tax cut. And NO, not just because they make
more money. Their marginal rate was cut more.

> I love the gays.

Enough to let them marry?

> We have yet to take a mm of oil from Iraq.

Not entirely the point. Plus, it would be a ml, or a cc, or
something. Mm is a measure of length, not volume.

And, for the record, I have very complex feelings about abortion and
have never given a needle to a drug addict.

> Michael Moore has at least 75 lbs. on Rush...

I bet his cardio is better, though. Either way, they're both useless.

SH

Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle wrote:

> Didn't they do a song called "Thick As A Brick"? Or was
> that the name of an album?

Both.

http://www.collecting-tull.com/Album...kAsABrick.html


Strange, I just flashed back to the show I saw when this
came out. I forgot all about that. I still have that
vinyl LP in my collection.

--
JJ...
Fort Bragg, NC

"When bad men combine, the good must associate;
else they will fall one by one, an unpitied
sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."
(Edmond Burke-1770)